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		<title>By: Brian Bacher</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-3133</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Bacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 23:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about CarbonCopyPro?  SOunds like the same kind of thing.  Any opinions about this one?

Tons of positive reviews - all trying to get people to join up - but they seem to sell some sort of financial services or something.  

And no, I have not given them my $50.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about CarbonCopyPro?  SOunds like the same kind of thing.  Any opinions about this one?</p>
<p>Tons of positive reviews &#8211; all trying to get people to join up &#8211; but they seem to sell some sort of financial services or something.  </p>
<p>And no, I have not given them my $50.</p>
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		<title>By: jerome  Clough</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-3122</link>
		<dc:creator>jerome  Clough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, ALL of you have got to admit that Jonathan Budd is extremely good at what he does. Ripping people off with such charm is truly a hard-earned skill, although not a skill that I much admire. Maybe, since he earns so much money &#039;n all, he could invest in a new shirt in which to present his smarmy videos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, ALL of you have got to admit that Jonathan Budd is extremely good at what he does. Ripping people off with such charm is truly a hard-earned skill, although not a skill that I much admire. Maybe, since he earns so much money &#8216;n all, he could invest in a new shirt in which to present his smarmy videos.</p>
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		<title>By: Silichip</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-3069</link>
		<dc:creator>Silichip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;ve just join the Global Domains international affiliate program and thought of giving this a try after finding good reviews on many legitimate sites but anyway I&#039;ve came across this reverse funnel system on google search engine.

At first I&#039;ve saw the Jonathan Budd RFS adverts, it looks very interesting but I did do abit more research on it and found this site and read the comments and it seem to me that this is to risky for me and decided now not to bother with it.

I recommend to anyone who thinking of joining this RFS to be very careful and read the comments here first before you make your decision and make a big mistake of spending $50 month on a scam...

Thank you all for the helpful comments. Bye!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;ve just join the Global Domains international affiliate program and thought of giving this a try after finding good reviews on many legitimate sites but anyway I&#8217;ve came across this reverse funnel system on google search engine.</p>
<p>At first I&#8217;ve saw the Jonathan Budd RFS adverts, it looks very interesting but I did do abit more research on it and found this site and read the comments and it seem to me that this is to risky for me and decided now not to bother with it.</p>
<p>I recommend to anyone who thinking of joining this RFS to be very careful and read the comments here first before you make your decision and make a big mistake of spending $50 month on a scam&#8230;</p>
<p>Thank you all for the helpful comments. Bye!</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Zaccor</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-2843</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Zaccor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is that I took the PPC Mastery Intensive class from Jonathan Budd. I did it because of a new business in the clean tech arena that I will be launching in a couple of months. It&#039;s not an MLM but we will leverage the internet to sell the product in the US &amp; Canada. Jonathan does in fact reveal a grest deal of very valuable information that can be implemented immediatley. It was well worth the money and I will save thousands doing the marketing myself AND getting optimal results. 
It would have taken me a long long time to figure most of this out and, btw... I have already read a book or two on the subject. 

Cheers, 

Gene 
415 482-9134</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is that I took the PPC Mastery Intensive class from Jonathan Budd. I did it because of a new business in the clean tech arena that I will be launching in a couple of months. It&#8217;s not an MLM but we will leverage the internet to sell the product in the US &amp; Canada. Jonathan does in fact reveal a grest deal of very valuable information that can be implemented immediatley. It was well worth the money and I will save thousands doing the marketing myself AND getting optimal results.<br />
It would have taken me a long long time to figure most of this out and, btw&#8230; I have already read a book or two on the subject. </p>
<p>Cheers, </p>
<p>Gene<br />
415 482-9134</p>
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		<title>By: 5ive</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-2711</link>
		<dc:creator>5ive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This argument has been going on for 2 years now! You know what the &quot;Reverse Funnel System&quot; is? A Scam! Just reverse the funnel, put it on a chair, and shit on it, that&#039;s what goes into your ass!

Those who defend this system are the ones that are in complete denial of reality, that have this hope that they too can lie on a beach chair with their laptops by the pool sipping on lemonade.

Are you kidding me? I have to pay $50 to get information on a business, and then fork over $3,000 to join this &quot;system&quot; AND another $300 a month to &quot;maintain&quot; the system, plus another $5,000 for advertising?

You know what those $50 are for? No not to weed out the tirekickers and dreamers, because the dreamers are the ones paying thousands for this system. Here&#039;s what those $50 are for, say you have people that are interested in this system, well you invite them to take a look BUT in case you shit your pants when WE here at the great and almighty system decide to lower your pants down to your ankles and ass rape you to the tune of $3,000 + $300 Monthly + $5,000 advertising fees, we&#039;ll still scam you out of $50 that you won&#039;t get back. So even if decide to  leave, we&#039;ll still have gotten $50 from you!

And that&#039;s what those $50 are for, don&#039;t believe Jonathan Budd or any of these happy go lucky robots that tell you that you failed because you were not capable of doing business or because &quot;The metrix or DATA of the equivalent of the scientific measurement of the business end and model of the MLM and blah blah blah and all this talk to get you dizzy.

IT DOES NOT WORK, IT&#039;S A SCAM!! If you still decide to join these people and get ass raped even after having read all the negative things on this &quot;System&quot; than you DESERVE IT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This argument has been going on for 2 years now! You know what the &#8220;Reverse Funnel System&#8221; is? A Scam! Just reverse the funnel, put it on a chair, and shit on it, that&#8217;s what goes into your ass!</p>
<p>Those who defend this system are the ones that are in complete denial of reality, that have this hope that they too can lie on a beach chair with their laptops by the pool sipping on lemonade.</p>
<p>Are you kidding me? I have to pay $50 to get information on a business, and then fork over $3,000 to join this &#8220;system&#8221; AND another $300 a month to &#8220;maintain&#8221; the system, plus another $5,000 for advertising?</p>
<p>You know what those $50 are for? No not to weed out the tirekickers and dreamers, because the dreamers are the ones paying thousands for this system. Here&#8217;s what those $50 are for, say you have people that are interested in this system, well you invite them to take a look BUT in case you shit your pants when WE here at the great and almighty system decide to lower your pants down to your ankles and ass rape you to the tune of $3,000 + $300 Monthly + $5,000 advertising fees, we&#8217;ll still scam you out of $50 that you won&#8217;t get back. So even if decide to  leave, we&#8217;ll still have gotten $50 from you!</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s what those $50 are for, don&#8217;t believe Jonathan Budd or any of these happy go lucky robots that tell you that you failed because you were not capable of doing business or because &#8220;The metrix or DATA of the equivalent of the scientific measurement of the business end and model of the MLM and blah blah blah and all this talk to get you dizzy.</p>
<p>IT DOES NOT WORK, IT&#8217;S A SCAM!! If you still decide to join these people and get ass raped even after having read all the negative things on this &#8220;System&#8221; than you DESERVE IT!</p>
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		<title>By: Kellie</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-2659</link>
		<dc:creator>Kellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love GRN
The product is fantastic and speaks for itself.

Love Jonathan Budd
I purchased several products and am very pleased.  I requested a refund once and was quickly refunded with no questions asked.

Not much love for RFS
Although I do like the ease of the system, I feel it is overpriced for what you get, customer service is terrible, and my upline never returns my calls.  I think the up front pitch by RFS is a bit misleading; however, the 50.00 IS refundable and Ty is very clear about what he feels the minimum start up costs are (2k-5k) and NOT to sign up if you don&#039;t have the money or are not serious about investing money.  The disclaimer is in huge print, you cannot miss it!  We all need to take responsibility for our actions.  No one is forcing you to sign up.  So, while I am not a fan of the RFS, I do not think it is a scam.  You have every opportunity to get off the page before you buy in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love GRN<br />
The product is fantastic and speaks for itself.</p>
<p>Love Jonathan Budd<br />
I purchased several products and am very pleased.  I requested a refund once and was quickly refunded with no questions asked.</p>
<p>Not much love for RFS<br />
Although I do like the ease of the system, I feel it is overpriced for what you get, customer service is terrible, and my upline never returns my calls.  I think the up front pitch by RFS is a bit misleading; however, the 50.00 IS refundable and Ty is very clear about what he feels the minimum start up costs are (2k-5k) and NOT to sign up if you don&#8217;t have the money or are not serious about investing money.  The disclaimer is in huge print, you cannot miss it!  We all need to take responsibility for our actions.  No one is forcing you to sign up.  So, while I am not a fan of the RFS, I do not think it is a scam.  You have every opportunity to get off the page before you buy in.</p>
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		<title>By: Calm Down</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-2621</link>
		<dc:creator>Calm Down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at all of you negative people criticizing something you&#039;re just scared of.
Instead of blasting your concerns and lame gossipical opinions, you&#039;ll just have to try it for yourselves and see what happens.
The thing I hate most about this world are the people who are quick to panic about everything they see instead of exploring it or even just leaving it alone.
If you have nothing better to do with your lives then keep that $50 an buy your loved one dinner or something, cause you know.. That&#039;s way better than chancing it with a &quot;maybe&quot; life changing step.
No one is forcing you to even go near the system, just mind your own business and let people learn by themselves.
I have no idea what the RFS is, I&#039;ve only come across it last year, never really messed with it.
Though when I do decide to, and it DOES take my $50.. It&#039;s not the end of the world people.

So please, try to make the world a smoother place, that&#039;s by keeping your negativity to yourselves.

Thank you much - Tony</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at all of you negative people criticizing something you&#8217;re just scared of.<br />
Instead of blasting your concerns and lame gossipical opinions, you&#8217;ll just have to try it for yourselves and see what happens.<br />
The thing I hate most about this world are the people who are quick to panic about everything they see instead of exploring it or even just leaving it alone.<br />
If you have nothing better to do with your lives then keep that $50 an buy your loved one dinner or something, cause you know.. That&#8217;s way better than chancing it with a &#8220;maybe&#8221; life changing step.<br />
No one is forcing you to even go near the system, just mind your own business and let people learn by themselves.<br />
I have no idea what the RFS is, I&#8217;ve only come across it last year, never really messed with it.<br />
Though when I do decide to, and it DOES take my $50.. It&#8217;s not the end of the world people.</p>
<p>So please, try to make the world a smoother place, that&#8217;s by keeping your negativity to yourselves.</p>
<p>Thank you much &#8211; Tony</p>
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		<title>By: Anton Cipri</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-2615</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton Cipri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I purchased a product from Budd a couple of years ago.  It had the typical 30 day money back guarantee.
The content of the product was weak at best so I requested a refund.
It got ugly...I had to make several requests and read a very condescending email from the punk before he finally gave me the refund.
He thinks because he has money in his bank account he is superior. 
I also have a very nice bank account and solid investments even after the economy took its toll. 
However, I treat people with respect no matter who they are, what they do for a living or how much money is in their name.
A real marketer, a professional, doesn&#039;t behave the way that I have personally witness Budd behave.
Caveat emptor! (Buyer beware!)
By the way, if you need an honest life/health insurance agent whom will look out for your best interest, please contact me.  I am licensed in many states.
Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased a product from Budd a couple of years ago.  It had the typical 30 day money back guarantee.<br />
The content of the product was weak at best so I requested a refund.<br />
It got ugly&#8230;I had to make several requests and read a very condescending email from the punk before he finally gave me the refund.<br />
He thinks because he has money in his bank account he is superior.<br />
I also have a very nice bank account and solid investments even after the economy took its toll.<br />
However, I treat people with respect no matter who they are, what they do for a living or how much money is in their name.<br />
A real marketer, a professional, doesn&#8217;t behave the way that I have personally witness Budd behave.<br />
Caveat emptor! (Buyer beware!)<br />
By the way, if you need an honest life/health insurance agent whom will look out for your best interest, please contact me.  I am licensed in many states.<br />
Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: WWu777</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-2580</link>
		<dc:creator>WWu777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, an honest review that tells the truth.  I had to search the 5th or 6th page of google results to find this article.  All the ones before were shills for RFS.

If you can&#039;t get rich quick, you can also move abroad like I did, where you can live on a few hundred a month in foreign countries where cost of living is much lower and people are much friendlier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, an honest review that tells the truth.  I had to search the 5th or 6th page of google results to find this article.  All the ones before were shills for RFS.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t get rich quick, you can also move abroad like I did, where you can live on a few hundred a month in foreign countries where cost of living is much lower and people are much friendlier.</p>
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		<title>By: Tisk</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-2558</link>
		<dc:creator>Tisk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 23:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no knowledge in marketing and not much computer literacy. You can consider me the most gullible person you have ever met and the most soft hearted.

All I had to do was turn down the volume to the podcast and scroll down the page to see how long he took to convince. (shows desperation

I have learned that if it is easy,cheap, or free, it&#039;s WORTH having.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no knowledge in marketing and not much computer literacy. You can consider me the most gullible person you have ever met and the most soft hearted.</p>
<p>All I had to do was turn down the volume to the podcast and scroll down the page to see how long he took to convince. (shows desperation</p>
<p>I have learned that if it is easy,cheap, or free, it&#8217;s WORTH having.</p>
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		<title>By: MIke</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-2506</link>
		<dc:creator>MIke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...and people wonder why the world,and the economy, is in the condition it&#039;s in. You people all talk like RFS et al is alone when it comes to scams. How about the government? Huge, multi-billion dollar, corporations are &#039;losing&#039; all of their investors money while paying out huge bonus&#039; from a company that is failing and the taxpayers and investors lose. The money that has been &#039;lost&#039; has to be somewhere. It&#039;s not lost, honest people are just getting scammed by any means possible by unscrupulous individuals that are trusted. There are so many thieves in the government that a honest person just doesn&#039;t have a chance, no matter how hard they work and saving money seems to be just stockpiling money for someone else to steal later on.
...TRUST NO ONE !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and people wonder why the world,and the economy, is in the condition it&#8217;s in. You people all talk like RFS et al is alone when it comes to scams. How about the government? Huge, multi-billion dollar, corporations are &#8216;losing&#8217; all of their investors money while paying out huge bonus&#8217; from a company that is failing and the taxpayers and investors lose. The money that has been &#8216;lost&#8217; has to be somewhere. It&#8217;s not lost, honest people are just getting scammed by any means possible by unscrupulous individuals that are trusted. There are so many thieves in the government that a honest person just doesn&#8217;t have a chance, no matter how hard they work and saving money seems to be just stockpiling money for someone else to steal later on.<br />
&#8230;TRUST NO ONE !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Diver</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-2499</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Diver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried RFS, it boils down to constantly recruiting instead of actually selling something. The major players move from one opportunity to another...constantly recruiting more opportunity seekers. The new one for RFS big wigs is easy button income. New name ..same game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried RFS, it boils down to constantly recruiting instead of actually selling something. The major players move from one opportunity to another&#8230;constantly recruiting more opportunity seekers. The new one for RFS big wigs is easy button income. New name ..same game.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-2462</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legitimate and ethical business is conducted by selling directly to customers or indirectly through distributors. Have you ever seen adds from Wal-Mart’s, Target, Massey’s, etc., telling people to send in $50 dollars and they would show you how to market and sell their products for them online?
I truly believe that EVERY ONE of the work at home programs, regardless as to who created them or what they consist of, that you see advertised on the internet ARE scams, pyramid programs cleverly composed to technically avoid illegality. (OK - only my opinion!) In the advertisement of these programs, the key phrase is &quot;Learn to make money&quot;, not something like, &quot;Let us show you how to sell shoes, vacations, widgets, gadgets, or whatever, online.&quot;
They ALL say that what you are buying from them is marketing techniques, but you are never told what it is that you are marketing, other than chances to make money.
If you are really selling a legitimate product or service for someone else, then that would make you a distributor, you would be actually selling these products or services to others for a commission (example: Amway, Avon, Mary Kay, etc.  You would know exactly what it is that you are selling. There would be no red tape in collecting your part of the sale. With MLM&#039;s, Affiliate Marketing, Reverse Funnel, or whatever the newest name that is used to attract victims to these scams, there is no real end product.

My hat is off to the hard working people out here on the net, that have online stores.  They invest in buying real inventory, and the buyer receives a product, not a &quot;promise&quot; to show the buyer how to make money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legitimate and ethical business is conducted by selling directly to customers or indirectly through distributors. Have you ever seen adds from Wal-Mart’s, Target, Massey’s, etc., telling people to send in $50 dollars and they would show you how to market and sell their products for them online?<br />
I truly believe that EVERY ONE of the work at home programs, regardless as to who created them or what they consist of, that you see advertised on the internet ARE scams, pyramid programs cleverly composed to technically avoid illegality. (OK &#8211; only my opinion!) In the advertisement of these programs, the key phrase is &#8220;Learn to make money&#8221;, not something like, &#8220;Let us show you how to sell shoes, vacations, widgets, gadgets, or whatever, online.&#8221;<br />
They ALL say that what you are buying from them is marketing techniques, but you are never told what it is that you are marketing, other than chances to make money.<br />
If you are really selling a legitimate product or service for someone else, then that would make you a distributor, you would be actually selling these products or services to others for a commission (example: Amway, Avon, Mary Kay, etc.  You would know exactly what it is that you are selling. There would be no red tape in collecting your part of the sale. With MLM&#8217;s, Affiliate Marketing, Reverse Funnel, or whatever the newest name that is used to attract victims to these scams, there is no real end product.</p>
<p>My hat is off to the hard working people out here on the net, that have online stores.  They invest in buying real inventory, and the buyer receives a product, not a &#8220;promise&#8221; to show the buyer how to make money.</p>
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		<title>By: internetmarketongmostwanted</title>
		<link>http://www.gator-byte.com/2007/10/reverse-funnel-system-scam/comment-page-7/#comment-2453</link>
		<dc:creator>internetmarketongmostwanted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 14:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the outstanding review of this new product,  i think i might get one for myself.

Anyody else?</description>
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<p>Anyody else?</p>
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